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'd go over the fiscal cliff. >> spending cuts this is based on good intentions, a framework or agree to agree to spending cuts down the road and this is the criticism that historically, sort of ad nauseam, that there are those good intentions that never through. >> all of the republicans will hear grover norquist recite over and over, every time they promise spending cuts in exchange for tax hikes, the tax hikes came, the spending cuts never came. >> and how long will the road be in terms of what the subpoenaing cuts might or might not be? that will prolong the uncertainty in the market. and with the ceo conference call in the 6:00 hour, that should be very interesting. will we feel the effect of this in the first quarter earnings and gdp, other economic data points. >> it puts republican caucus in the house in the position of having to decide whether no deal is better than a bad deal. >> you know, melissa, if i could chime in, one thing, you didn't hear the president talking about the debt ceiling, and the treasury secretary says we'll start running up against the debt ceiling on mo
, the spending cuts known as the fiscal cliff, but we are four days away from another financial challenge. that is the debt ceiling. now, compared to reaching your limit on your credit card essentially, treasury secretary timothy geithner said the u.s. is going to reach its borrowing limit on monday. he says, quote, i am writing to inform you that the statutory debt limit will be reached on december 31st, 2012, and to notify you that the treasury department will shortly begin taking certain extraordinary measures authorized by law to temporarily postpone the date that the united states would otherwise default on its legal obligations. there is wiggle room. that is equivalent to two months of borrowing. >>> now to the other financial crisis that could mean higher taxes for all of us. will congress send the country over the fiscal cliff or will they come up with some sort of deal and hit the brakes? the senate returned today hopefully to come up with some kind of deal. dana bash is flling this on capitol hill. i imagine we're all working over the holidays and i fess we're going to be workin
for the president to go off the fiscal cliff. but both sides are saying, you know what? maybe it's better to go off the cliff. politically, members of congress will have to vet on tax cuts as opposed to now which are tax increases which are much harder to take. >> that's right. because the tax hikes will happen whether or not congress acts, so the school of thought here is that if republicans and temp kratz were to allow this just to happen, then they could vote for infect only tax cuts, not be on the record voting for tax hikes. now for the very staunch anti tax folks, it's unclear if that would really pass muster with them, but certainly this is something being considered you know, dana. >> absolutely. i'm sure the markets won't know that. brianna, good to see you. while in hawaii, president obama and first lady michelle obama paid their respects to late senator daniel inouye. inouye died last week from a respiratory illness. he was 88 years old. following that the president went to visit the grave of his old grandfather who is buried at the very same cemetery. >> he will be missed and remembered
and it's also will a strategic question. a lot of folks want something to happen on the fiscal cliff and the one thing they don't want to include is an inclusion of the debt ceiling, an extension of the debt ceiling because come next year, early next year when we hit that debt limit again, they want to have spending cuts included with the debt limit negotiations and that's where the spending cuts i predict will happen during the debt limit and not the fiscal cliff. >> what's it going to look like when we have this fight about the debt ceiling. >> robert just said that the one thing that has been brought up is the debt ceiling as part of the negotiation and the other thing that they've mentioned are the spending cuts and he'll make an offer to put those on the table and part of that is that these are not popular right now and we could have an intellectual exercise about whether they should be, about whether it's proper or not, but the political reality is barack obama just wants to campaign and the liberals did very well. ? they didn't win the house. >> what's that? >> they didn't win
. unfortunately, they agree that going over the fiscal cliff is now a real possibility. you got the democrats, the white house republicans. they all say it is possible they're not going to reach a deal to avoid the massive tax increases and spending cuts that will take place in just eight days brianna keeler is in honolulu. i'm not going to tease you about hawaii being a junket, because i know it's hard work and you're doing something. >> thank you. >> absolutely. i'm a little jealous of the water and backdrop and sand. never mind. i won't hate here. tell us, are there any conversations that are going on between the president, the republicans, the democrats, anybody to aavoid the fiscal cliff? >> reporter: well, this is what may be alarming to learn, suzanne. obviously, the white house is always in concert with senate democrats. there's always an open line of communication there, but there are really no substantive discussions going on with the white house and senate democrats with republicans both in the house and the senate. that may seem troubling at this point, because obviously eyes are
christmas, of course, still no fiscal cliff resolution. the $500 billion in spending cuts and tax increases start on january 1st unless the white house and congress reach some sort of agreement. we're joined by former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt. and a cnbc contributor. governor, happy holidays. good morning to you. >> good morning, guys. >> so we're sitting here wondering what can be done in the next seven days. even in your role, if you're having to reset expectations. >> sure. i think it's fair to say the campaign is disappointed. we're not going to -- unless lightning strikes, we're not going to get a big deal. we're going to get something that avoid the cliff. kicks the can down the road on the serious issues. the serious issues, the can gets kicked into the debt ceiling. president says he's not going to deal with the debt ceiling. who knows what's going to happen at that point. i think we blew an opportunity in the last seven weeks to really sit down, do something good for the country, do something good for the economy, of our country and
. we acted to put off the fiscal cliff several months ago with a bill that without objection tend all of those bush tax rates into the future and would turn off the sequester by switching defense cuts over to domestic programs. democrats, of course have no intention of doing that. especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority lead
with congressional leaders at 3:00 p.m. eastern time today in a last ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the house majority leader eric cantor is now telling members to be prepared to work through january 2nd. both sides still far apart, however, on taxes and spending cuts. senate majority leader harry reid says prospects for a deal by monday are still unlikely. there was a lot of movement, motion for not a lot of action. >> where were you yesterday? >> i was here. we were together. >> were we ever with our -- no. but there were duelling senate leaders just -- first mcconnell came on. and he said -- did you see either one of those? >> i did. >> did you see harry reid? >> there's no chance of -- >> but if you think -- i want to rise above. there was so little of anything close to that yesterday other than just the -- i mean, people at home must be like, it's the endless blaming and finger pointing and, you know, when one side says it's all the other side's fault and all the other side comes on and says people at home aren't going, wow, i believe you, harry. or i believe i, mitch. they're
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